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Consultants Saying Things

Consultants Saying Things

By Chris Lockhart

We saw the need for some direct talk about some of the topics we’re encountering in daily work as business and technology practitioners. This is everything you wanted to know... the REAL deal... about consulting. We talk about the stuff that our clients care about and that consultants everywhere deal with every day.

This podcast is about business, people, technology and the intersection of the three.

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Episode 58: The One About Using LinkedIn for Success

Consultants Saying ThingsJan 10, 2023

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The One About The Buggy Whip Moment

The One About The Buggy Whip Moment

The rise of AI in consulting is akin to the demise of the buggy whip industry in the early 20th century. Just as the automobile rendered buggy whips obsolete, AI and large language models threaten to automate many tasks traditionally performed by consultants. Here are 7 things you need to know about adapting to survive this disruption.


We Discuss:

  • What is the threat AI poses to consulting?
  • How do consultants USE AI instead of being replaced by it?
  • How can consultants keep an authentic voice in the face of LLMs?
  • What is the consultant's value proposition in an AI future?
  • What types of consulting careers are most likely to be impacted?


Key Highlights:

  • The consulting industry may be facing a "buggy whip moment" due to the rise of AI and large language models (LLMs) that can automate tasks traditionally done by consultants. (00:02:53)
  • Consultants who don't adopt AI tools risk being replaced by those who do, similar to how those who didn't adopt typewriters were replaced by those who did. (00:06:45)
  • AI tools can augment consultants' capabilities, allowing them to do more work at a better quality level. (00:27:36)
  • The consulting industry may shift from providing free advisory content to protect their IP from being used to train AI models. (00:10:47)
  • Consultants should be vigilant, view AI as an opportunity, skill up, focus on human elements, niche down, and get closer to clients to navigate the changes brought by AI. (00:33:56)
  • Consulting work that requires human-level decision-making and capability will likely remain relevant in the short to medium term. (00:40:17)
  • Consultants should protect their IP going forward to maintain their value and competitive edge. (00:44:01)
  • Soft skills, emotional intelligence, and creativity will remain important for consultants as AI focuses on past data rather than innovative thinking. (00:30:32)
  • Consultants who enjoy building machines (processes and new things) will have an advantage over those who prefer running machines (turning the crank). (00:41:10)


7 Takeaways:

  1. The consulting industry is facing a potential disruption due to the rise of AI and large language models that can automate tasks traditionally performed by consultants.
  2. Consultants who fail to adopt AI tools risk being replaced by those who do, highlighting the importance of staying current with technological advancements.
  3. AI tools can augment consultants' capabilities, enabling them to deliver higher quality work more efficiently.
  4. The consulting industry may shift away from providing free advisory content to protect their intellectual property from being used to train AI models.
  5. To navigate the changes brought by AI, consultants should be vigilant, view AI as an opportunity, develop new skills, focus on human elements, specialize in niche areas, and build stronger relationships with clients.
  6. In the short to medium term, consulting work that requires human-level decision-making and capability will likely remain relevant.
  7. Soft skills, emotional intelligence, and creativity will continue to be valuable assets for consultants, as AI focuses on analyzing past data rather than generating innovative ideas.

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Mar 25, 202446:51
The One About Deliberate Career Planning

The One About Deliberate Career Planning

For ambitious consultants aiming to establish themselves as thought leaders and advance to senior decision-making roles, deliberate career planning is important. Here are 5 tips for actively managing your consulting career. We're joined by Patrick Milholland who in his career has served in every major C-Suite position but found his groove with a non-profit career, specifically his utlimate goal of a CIO career. We Discuss:

  • Why would someone plan their career this way?
  • How does education impact the career plan?
  • What are some of the pros and cons to taking this approach?
  • What were some of Patrick's hard choices in his journey?
  • What are some of his insights gleaned from following this process during his career?

Key Highlights:

  • Patrick deliberately pursued 3 degrees with the goal of becoming a CIO (3:00-6:24). There was a clear career plan in place and calculated choices were made to achieve the goal.
  • Working as a consultant provided great experience and exposure that enabled attaining a CIO role (12:11-14:18). The consulting skills translated directly.
  • The consulting role was left for a CIO position at a nonprofit where purpose and satisfaction was found, beyond just financial motivators (14:18-15:45).
  • Over time, impressive credentials and titles were accumulated that opened up additional career opportunities (32:13-34:12). The background stood out.
  • Be deliberate about aligning career choices with defined goals and to consider personal tradeoffs like family time (40:24-41:28). Having a plan matters.
  • Location has an impact – being in Silicon Valley expanded options vs. being in Ohio (34:05-34:24).

5 Takeaways:

  1. Education has an impact on getting noticed and gaining positions and needs to be aligned with the career strategy, sometimes by sacrificing things
  2. Working as a consultant can provide experience and exposure that enables a longer term career plan.
  3. Purpose and satisfaction beyond just financial motivators is more important than most people think when they're starting out.
  4. The accumulation of impressive credentials and titles can open up more and better career opportunities.
  5. Knowing your values, and being deliberate about aligning your career choices with those values will better enable you to reach your goals. When you have a minute, go to the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel ⁠⁠⁠⁠ to see all the free content. While you're there, LIKE and SUBSCRIBE. Check out https://patreon.com/ConsultantsSayingThings and subscribe for special access to EVEN MORE content from the team.
Feb 15, 202445:47
The One About Unlearning

The One About Unlearning

We spend our lives gaining knowledge of the world around us. Unlearning things, making room for new knowledge or corrected or updated knowledge, is a skill we aren’t usually taught and don’t often practice. Here are 8 important things to know about Unlearning.

We're joined for this discussion by Pete Cafarchio who is an executive coach that helps transform leaders, teams, and cultures. Pete is the CEO of Oculus Consulting and helps practitioners perform at their best.

We Discuss:

  • What is unlearning and why is it so important?
  • What are the implications of unlearning for us as consultants?
  • What are the implications for our clients?
  • How do we effectively challenge a client’s stuck mindset?
  • What's preventing us from applying this strategy?

Key Highlights:

  • Unlearning is challenging deeply held beliefs and assumptions to make room for new perspectives (6:36).
  • It takes courage since consultants are paid for what they know (6:15).
  • We tend to defend our thinking, but feeling defensive can indicate we're not fully convinced about something (24:25).
  • Self-awareness of our emotional reactions can reveal opportunities for unlearning (25:05).
  • Groupthink and technology like social media algorithms can reinforce entrenched thinking, making unlearning more difficult (17:58, 30:04).
  • Practical tips for unlearning include exposing ourselves to contrary views (35:02) and asking questions that imagine project failure scenarios (36:32) or competitor advantages (37:13) to surface overlooked issues.
  • Facilitating unlearning conversations creates value for clients by getting them to reconsider assumptions (44:23).
  • Information is now ubiquitous; consultants add value through context, application and strategy (43:36).

8 Takeaways:

  1. Unlearning involves challenging ingrained beliefs to make room for new perspectives, which takes courage since consultants are paid for their knowledge. (6:36)
  2. Feeling defensive about an idea can signal that we are not fully convinced about it and presents an opportunity for unlearning. (24:25)
  3. Technology like social media algorithms tends to reinforce tribal thinking, making unlearning more difficult. (30:04)
  4. Intentionally exposing ourselves to contrary opinions helps to challenge our assumptions and unlearn. (35:02)
  5. Asking “what if we fail” questions imagine failure scenarios to uncover overlooked issues. (36:32)
  6. Posing “what would competitors do” questions surfaces organizational vulnerabilities. (37:13)
  7. Facilitating unlearning conversations creates value for clients by getting them to challenge assumptions. (44:23)
  8. With ubiquitous information, consultants now add value through context, application and strategy rather than just providing information. (43:36)

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Jan 11, 202446:04
The 2023 Christmas Special

The 2023 Christmas Special

With focus on people, practical tips, managing uncertainty, anticipating trends, and weighing digital impacts - our annual Christmas Special is chock-full of useful and relevant stuff for consultants.


We Discuss:

  • First appearances on the podcast by each of the cast and current reflections on what each of us said back then
  • Best-of moments from 2023 and why they are relevant
  • Predictions for 2024


Key Highlights:

  • Phil reflects on his comments from the first ever episode in 2018, showing how his views on the importance of understanding people and their needs is still highly relevant today. (00:05:32)
  • Whynde observes how the need for human connection seems amplified now compared to when the podcast started, noting massive changes like work-from-home and AI. (00:13:35)
  • The cast has had thought-provoking conversations over the years that have informed major life and career decisions, keeping the focus more on functioning as good human beings rather than just technology. (00:25:49)
  • The episode on Using LinkedIn for Success was the most popular of the past year, indicating an interest in practical tips beyond just consulting. (00:37:30)
  • Tom Graves advises not trying to predict the future but instead focusing on adapting in real-time. (00:48:03)
  • Whynde hopes businesses become more thoughtful and discerning with new technologies like AI, carefully examining what it really means and the unintended consequences. (01:11:43)
  • Shashi predicts a major skills shift as AI gets democratized, with business users outside IT getting more tech-savvy and implementing solutions themselves. (01:16:01)
  • Phil sees cyber security threats growing as more are able to "game the system", making it harder to discern what's real vs AI-generated. (01:18:37)
  • Chris predicts more focus on how AI is relevant and applicable to solving business problems, beyond just the "gee whiz" factor. (01:23:02)


7 Takeaways:

  1. The focus has evolved to be more on functioning as good human beings and maintaining sanity versus just discussing technology.
  2. There is strong interest beyond just the consulting audience in practical advice like effectively using LinkedIn.
  3. Adapting in real-time is advised over trying to predict the unpredictable future.
  4. Carefully examining what emerging technologies really mean for businesses, including unintended consequences, is hoped for.
  5. Major skills shifts alongside potential growth in cyber threats are predicted as AI becomes democratized.
  6. Maintaining work-life balance seems increasingly challenging amidst more remote work and turbulent times.
  7. Frameworks shared, like Chris Potts’ unifying model, can help guide decision-making amidst constant change.

Dec 28, 202301:30:53
The One About Community

The One About Community

The digital age has offered countless opportunities for connection, but the depth and authenticity of these connections often fall short. Check out these 5 strategies for growing professional communities.


We Discuss:

  • Why do these communities matter? What problem are they solving?
  • What are some challenges faced by consultants when seeking to build authentic, supportive networks?
  • What are some strategies for a) finding a community to be part of; b) growing one of your own?
  • How much does being ‘close-knit’ matter with these communities?


Key Highlights:

  • Introduction to Converge Australia 2023, a series of 32 events in 25 days across Australia bringing strategy, architecture and community professionals together (2:20-4:00)
  • The motivation and goals in attending professional community events (23:27-25:52)
  • How to find and get involved in a professional community (25:52-28:11)
  • Expectations and mindset that drive people to attend events like this (30:32-31:47)
  • Importance of quality conversations over scale (36:35-38:18)
  • Keys to building community (40:25-42:16)


5 Takeaways:

  1. People attend these events to interact, gain new ideas, meet interesting people, and to make connections - if you're building a community you need to understand their motivations and why people come together
  2. Getting involved in a professional community starts with building relationships and networks over time in areas that you have a genuine interest
  3. Go in with a learning, exploratory mindset without set expectations and be prepared to give more than you receive and contribute value
  4. Breaking large groups of people into smaller, more intimate groups leads to better conversations and connections than one large event
  5. Understand who you want to help, what they need, how you can help - realize people are actively seeking community and connections

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Dec 12, 202346:35
Episode 66: The One About Disillusionment

Episode 66: The One About Disillusionment

Consulting is known for long work hours, lack of work-life balance, tedious work, and sometimes lack of meaning. Here are the 5 things you should know about consulting and disillusionment. In this episode we discuss:

  • What causes consultants to become disengaged or lose passion for their work over time?
  • How do consulting firms try to engage and motivate their employees? Do these things work?
  • What warning signs should consultants look out for that may indicate they are becoming disengaged?
  • Are certain types of consulting roles or firms more prone to this than others?
  • What should the cats on the ground do if they sense they're becoming disillusioned?

Key Highlights:

  • Disillusionment begins when reality doesn't match expectations (9:00)
  • Misalignment with values and life priority changes can also lead to disillusionment (14:15)
  • Warning signs include apathy, irritation, fatigue (16:10)
  • Lack of purpose, autonomy, work-life balance, not feeling valued causes issues (23:00)
  • Steps to address: clarify values, assess root causes, change teams/projects, change industries (27:30)


5 Takeaways:

  1. Disillusionment in consulting careers can happen when reality doesn't match expectations, values are misaligned, or life priorities change over time. Early warning signs include apathy, irritation, disconnection, fatigue.
  2. Lack of purpose, lack of autonomy, poor work-life balance, not feeling valued, and not aligning with company culture can also lead to disillusionment.
  3. Steps to address disillusionment: clarify values, assess root causes, explore options like new teams, projects, sabbatical, industry roles. Catch issues early.
  4. To retain talent, companies should provide coaching/mentors, flexibility, continual growth opportunities. Fostering feelings of value and community also helps.
  5. If leaving a company, do it gracefully - don't burn bridges. Thank them and own that it's your decision to make the change. This preserves professional reputation.


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Nov 21, 202339:53
Episode 65: The One About Corporate IT

Episode 65: The One About Corporate IT

The Corporate IT group is sometimes viewed as a black hole consuming resources and getting in the way of getting business done. Almost like some don't know what Corporate IT does...


Some in the enterprise don’t really know how to engage with and leverage technology to deliver value. If it is hard for those who work FOR the company, it can be even harder to navigate corporate IT as a consultant who has landed someplace to try to address business problems.


Given that corporate IT represents a set of services or capabilities that enable an organization to realize business objectives, it is pretty important for anyone seeking to effect change to understand how to engage with them. Consultants especially need to work with corporate IT in order to deliver promised value for their consulting services (and to collect their fees).


Suffice it to say that “navigating the client’s IT organization” is not typically taught to consultants before they show up to solve business problems.


I wanted to explore this topic with some smart friends. I hit up Chris Potts and R.M. Bastien who have both written and spoken on this topic a great deal.


In this episode:

  • What do we actually mean by corporate IT? What does it consist of and what does it usually provide to the rest of the company?
  • Why do some IT groups have a dubious reputation for delivering value? This isn’t true everywhere… what makes the difference?
  • Why does IT sometimes seem disconnected from the business it is enabling?
  • For consultants on technical engagements, what are some tips for establishing rapport with the IT group? For consultants on strategy engagements, how do they engage with client IT groups?


Chris Potts is a globally-recognized enterprise architect, enterprise designer and mentor who has worked in over 27 countries and helps companies, governments and individual leaders with the creative, practical, cultural and political aspects of being successful in their given contexts. He's the author of a series of books on the value of IT, architecture and how change relates to them both.


R.M. Bastien has worked for over 25 years as a management coach, trainer, and architect. His mission is to help leaders understand and overcome the challenges and limitations of the current corporate IT engagement model, and to achieve higher quality and faster delivery of business goals. He is the author of an executive leadership guide to corporate IT strategy.


Check out their sites and publications below:


Chris Potts Online: https://lnkd.in/gn7ux8F5

FruITion Trilogy: https://lnkd.in/g35RPPiS


R.M. Bastien: https://rmbastien.com/

Understanding the Corporate IT Strategy Game: https://a.co/d/75pPl6X


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Oct 10, 202348:50
Episode 64: The One About Workshop Must-Haves
Sep 12, 202341:15
Episode 63: The One About Driving Real World Outcomes

Episode 63: The One About Driving Real World Outcomes

Clients don't hire consultants to learn about our unique frameworks or totally novel perspectives or listen to our thought projects on topics like AI, data strategy or new product development. They hire us to help drive outcomes.

Sometimes these are outcomes that the client has already defined, other times they need some help divining what should actually result from a particular strategy or project.

Naturally there is a tension between the design of something and the realization of the thing. For consultants, there is a struggle between the abstract, ambiguous, hand-waving strategic things and the super technical, hyper focused lost in the weeds things.

Oftentimes we lose sight of the actual reason for working a problem with a client. We become so involved and invested with the details of HOW that we forget WHY.

The outcome is what matters. Keeping focus on that is not always easy.

In a recent conference hosted by IASAGlobal.org dealing with Business, Innovation, Leadership & Technology (BIL-T) and focused on driving real world outcomes, my friends and I were asked to host a live session of our podcast. With a dose of editing legerdemain and a degree of intrepidity, we managed to craft an episode from the live talk.

In this episode:

  • What are ‘good’ behaviors with regard to delivering outcomes?
  • What should consultants be caring about?
  • Are Client and Consultant outcomes always aligned?
  • How do consultants balance what the client wants vs what is achievable?
  • How do consultants know the right level of detail for the audience/client/group?


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Aug 08, 202356:00
Episode 62: The One About Work/Life Coherence
Jul 11, 202335:42
Episode 61: The One About AI in Consulting
Jun 06, 202355:15
Episode 60: The One About Ego
May 02, 202350:43
Episode 59: The One About Respect & Retention

Episode 59: The One About Respect & Retention

Company culture is important, but not as important as profitability. Layoffs are necessary. Business is business... But you don't have to treat your people like garbage. They're your most valuable asset after all.

There are a number of examples we’ve seen over the past few years of company culture that doesn’t seem to get the balance quite right between the commercial needs of the business and respect for the individuals of the company. On the one hand, the business exists to make money and tough decisions are often called for that impact people’s lives. On the other, the humans that make up the company deserve to be treated fairly and with some dignity.

We recently sat down with Stephen Foreshew-Cain, CEO of Scott Logic, a UK tech consultancy. He has staked out a slightly different approach to leadership of his company by putting the employees first in recognition that happy, motivated employees makes for better business. Importantly, they have matched words with actions.

In this episode:

  • How do you attract and retain a diverse workforce? Why does that matter?
  • How far should company leadership go to accommodate employees?
  • What does respecting the employee look like in 2023? Does it vary by type or size of company?
  • What does a good retention agenda include?
  • Is there a generational aspect to employee expectations?
  • Does this topic vary by country?
  • What are the implications around transparency?

Check out ScottLogic's website and be sure to read about their People Promise.

Also, read some of Stephen's blog posts around the topic of leadership and respect:

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Feb 23, 202354:07
Episode 58: The One About Using LinkedIn for Success

Episode 58: The One About Using LinkedIn for Success

There appear to be economic headwinds as we move into 2023. Tools like LinkedIn can be one of the most powerful weapons in your branding, sales, or employment arsenal. That is, if you know how to use it effectively...

In a recent discussion on using Social Media on the podcast, we acknowledged the fact that while all 4 of us have years of expertise in using social tools, none of us are world-renowned experts who train other people how to use them. Luckily we're friends with a person who is.

Richard Bliss is 8th on LinkedIn's list of top global social selling experts. He's an author who's latest book is called DigitalFirst Leadership, and heads up BlissPoint Consulting which enables leaders to leverage the language of social media to extend their voice, vision and message. And don't forget that he publishes an annual research report on the LinkedIn Algorithm...

So yeah. He knows what he's talking about when it comes to using LinkedIn for success.

We asked him to sit down with us and talk through some of our observations and point out a few of his strategies for maximizing your effectiveness on LinkedIn.

For all the cats out there who are interested in upping their game on the socials, you'll want to grab a pen and a notebook...

In this episode:

  • What are some key strategies for building a successful and effective LinkedIn profile?
  • What are some common mistakes people make on business social sites?
  • How do you better understand the algorithm to maximize viewership of posts and articles?
  • What are tips for finding a client or career opportunity?
  • What are some effective ways to grow your network?

Check out BlissPoint's website at https://www.blisspointconsult.com/ and request a copy of the 2022 LinkedIn Algorithm Report.

Also check out Richard's latest book on Amazon: "DigitalFirst Leadership: Master Social Media | Build Online Presence | Lead Your Tribe" https://www.amazon.com/DigitalFirst-Leadership-Master-Social-Presence-ebook/dp/B091MD5DL7?ref_=ast_sto_dp


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Jan 10, 202346:11
Episode 57: The 2022 Christmas Special
Dec 31, 202201:46:28
Episode 56: The One About Social Media
Dec 14, 202250:24
Episode 55: The One About Public Speaking

Episode 55: The One About Public Speaking

According to various polls, public speaking ranks as peoples' top fear... ahead of snakes, heights, clowns and, in fact, death itself. Let that sink in. People would rather be DEAD than speak in front of a group of other humans.

So, first... why? And second, what can be done about it?

Naturally we can't solve EVERYONE'S fear of public speaking, so we decided to tackle this issue from the perspective of consulting.

Good consultants need to be able to do a variety of tasks well. Yes there's the need for technical or domain knowledge and skills, the ability to model and analyze, the skill of collecting information and processing it, the requirement of logical thinking, etc. But without the ability to communicate effectively to other people (i.e. the CLIENT), all of that good consultant stuff is less useful or perhaps even useless.

In this episode:

  • Why is public speaking important?
  • Why does it matter for consultants?
  • Why are people afraid of speaking in front of others?
  • What are some ways of getting better at public speaking?

There is a longish cold open and some extra goodness as an outro. Why? Well as you'll see, our discussions range over a wide, wide territory. Most of that content never sees the light of day. I thought I'd include a bit of off-topic stuff to give you a sense of the kind of people that get MY intellectual juices going. Being around these types of folks and having these kinds of conversations and being comfortable with it is what has enabled ME to face and conquer public speaking fears over time. Maybe it'll work for you...

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Nov 22, 202251:18
Episode 54: The One About The Book: Strategy to Reality

Episode 54: The One About The Book: Strategy to Reality

The knock on consulting is that so much of what goes on is either a bunch of fluff and hand-waving at a stratospheric, impractical level or narrowly focused on mostly useless technical gee-wizardry with little connection to actual business need. How do you connect strategy to reality?

Luckily there's a new book that takes dead aim at this issue and serves as a practical guide to developing strategy that delivers real-world value. And even more luckily, the author is one of our own...

"Strategy to Reality: Making the Impossible Possible for Business Architects, Change Makers and Strategy Execution Leaders" by our own Whynde Kuehn is practical, digestible, and evergreen. She applies decades of knowledge and experience in what works and what doesn't and lays out a prescriptive plan for matching vision with delivery.

We wanted to sit down with her and discuss the book, how consultants can apply the knowledge within for their clients, and how leaders in industry can use it as a guide for change.

In this episode:

  • What inspired Whynde to write this? What did she learn about the process
  • What are the central factors at play when developing and applying strategy?
  • How does business architecture factor in to strategy?
  • How do you get real-world change from what seem like fluffy concepts?
  • How do these practices sustain themselves inside of organizations?
  • How do consultants help clients connect strategy and execution?

Hit up Amazon right now and get her book. It's an easy read with so much useful stuff that you'll definitely want a highlighter handy.

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Oct 31, 202241:05
Episode 53: The One About Mental Resiliency (With Experts)

Episode 53: The One About Mental Resiliency (With Experts)

Being mentally resilient in the face of everything the world throws at us can be daunting. Whether it's work, family, friends, international politics... there's a lot of stress on us every day. How is a person supposed to deal? (Psst: I have the answer...).  

Okay. I personally don't have the answer. But I'm lucky to know some folks that are certified experts in this area.   

You may recall in the last episode of the podcast, Phil, Oliver, Whynde and myself discussed our experiences with mental resiliency over our careers. Frankly this amounted to personal anecdotes and clever observations. None of us are actual experts in mental health (which should be obvious to anyone who watches).   

Enter a couple of friends of ours: Dr. Haley Dare and Gavin Richardson of https://www.neurequity.com/. Hayley is a Chartered Consultant Clinical Psychologist with over 25 years’ professional experience and Gavin has extensive experience in designing and implementing transformational workplace mental health initiatives to enhance employee engagement and organizational performance. It turns out that they're ACTUAL experts in this space. Through their work, they help companies around the world ensure their employee's mental wellbeing. 

We brought them on to discuss mental resiliency, this time through the lens of professionals.  

In this episode: 

  • Why does mental resiliency matter?
  • What are some of the biggest causes of stress for Consultants? 
  • How does that stress manifest itself? What are some of the impacts?
  • What are some of the coping mechanisms? 
  • How does brain chemistry factor in? 
  • What are some ways to improve resiliency? 
  • How do we, as consultants, protect "the asset" ?  

You're not gonna want to miss this one...  It should be said that if you are in real need of help due to stress or other mental health issues, don't listen to this podcast. Go out and get the help you need. YOU are the asset. Protect it!

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Sep 28, 202253:60
Episode 52: The One About Mental Resiliency
Aug 19, 202235:30
Episode 51: The One About Architecture and Consulting

Episode 51: The One About Architecture and Consulting

What is an architect? What is architecture? In the business technology context, is architecture a profession? What do architects do? A quick Google search reveals an endless debate on these topics that's been raging for several decades. Let's add more fuel to that fire and stir that pot...

This episode is the third in a mashup series on this topic that began with an episode of IASA Global's "The Argument" podcast hosted by Paul Preiss (https://youtu.be/A6Bli8FYXz0) and continued in an episode of the "Architect Tomorrow" podcast hosted by Oliver Cronk (https://youtu.be/e6Q5y2o6JWU). Check these out as they each have a thematic take on architecture!

While I enjoy a good endless debate with smart people, I wanted to focus on the topic of Architecture through the lens of Consulting. Joining me is Phil Yanov, Oliver Cronk, Whynde Kuehn and Chris Potts. Chris is an internationally recognized enterprise architect and mentor for small and large businesses across industries. He's also the author of a number of business novels about change called The FruITion Triology (https://technicspub.com/the-fruition-series/).

In this episode:

  • Consulting is known as a profession. Is architecture a profession?
  • Can any consultant become an architect?
  • Are architects actually consultants?
  • Is there a difference between an architect inside a company versus an architect in a consulting firm?
  • What skills do architects have versus consultants?

This episode represents the third entry in the Podcast Mashup series representing the following totally awesome podcasts:

Architect Tomorrow - https://youtube.com/ArchitectTomorrow/ Business Architecture Straight Talk https://bit.ly/st-podcasts https://bizarchmastery.com/straighttalk
Consultants Saying Things - https://www.consultantssayingthings.com
The Argument by IASA - https://iasaglobal.org/Public/Public/Events/Use-as-templates/TheArgument.aspx
Tech After Five - https://www.techafterfive.com/

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Jul 11, 202237:45
Episode 50: The One About The Top 5 Special

Episode 50: The One About The Top 5 Special

Four years ago a friend told me that since I had so much to say about business and technology topics that I should go make a podcast. In retrospect I think he just wanted me to quit bothering him. Joke's on him. I had him join the cast.  

50 Episodes later, we've talked to dozens of people on many different topics... all related to how we as consultants can leverage our experience and knowledge to help deliver value to our clients.   

We've tried to make the discussions topical, meaningful and most of all, practical. Knowledge isn't particularly helpful if you have no realistic way to use it. Keeping things useful for the cat on the ground has always been important to us.   

We've had quite a lot of fun over the years and debated a variety of really interesting subjects. But what we enjoyed was not always what you, the viewers, found to be most helpful.   

For this 50th Episode, we wanted to see exactly which episodes where the most viewed on the Youtube channel, on the website consultantssayingthings.com and most listened to via the myriad audio-only services. We've pulled out clips from these Top 5 shows and put them together in one episode.   

In descending order, the episodes are:  

1) The One About Agile Being Bullshit 

2) The One About Business Architecture 

3) The One About Consulting 4.0 

4) The One About PMO 

5) The One About Ethics in Consulting  


Keep in mind there are another 45 episodes out there that we think are ALSO pretty good. But these ones are the Top 5.   

There's new footage here that never made it into the final edits of the respective episodes. We also begin Episode 50 with what has been almost universally identified as the best cold open of the series to date...  

Thanks for continuing to watch.

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Jun 20, 202258:49
Episode 49: The One About Consulting Myths & Memes
May 03, 202249:18
Episode 48: The One About Assessing Consulting Skills

Episode 48: The One About Assessing Consulting Skills

In the battle for talent, how do you identify people who are likely to exhibit the qualities you want? How do you do the same with your existing employees? Assessments? Reviews? Rorschach Tests?  

Many of us have been part of organizations that sought to understand the strengths and weaknesses of their staff by utilizing personality tests and skill assessments. They've been around for a long time. In fact, the first modern personality test was applied by the US Army in the early 1900s to identify soldiers that may be susceptible to shell shock.   

Fast-forward a hundred years and a quick Google search reveals the dozens of tests, frameworks, metamodels, questionnaires, and the like, which all purport to assist people in understanding each other.  

Whether it is Myers-Briggs, DISC, True Colors, 16PF, Winslow Personality Test, PCM, the Five Factor Model or any of a few dozen other tests and assessments, the question I had was simple: is any of this useful?  

Along with Oliver Cronk, Whynde Kuehn and special guest Andrew Tanner, we delve into that question and attempt to see how practitioners or consultancies might apply the various models.   

Andrew is an Organization Development and Change expert who's practiced in the field for over 20 years through his firm, Summerhill Consulting, and is currently the head of Learning and Development for PCF Bank in the UK.  

In this episode: 

  • Why do organizations use these tools?
  • How are they typically used?
  • How effective are they?
  • Why would a consultant want to understand their personality type?
  • What do these tools tell us about the skills needed for consulting?

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Apr 11, 202246:08
Episode 47: The One About Storytelling

Episode 47: The One About Storytelling

We all know smart people. They often have smart plans and smart designs. Sometimes fancy shoes. But the smartest plan or design is totally useless if it can't be explained to another human being.  

As humans, how do we share information in ways that convey our ideas, thoughts, intents, moods, histories? We tell stories. Sometimes the story is visual and can be anything from cave paintings to maps to plays to diagrams to art. Other times it is audio and involves music or oral histories. It can even be as simple as the written words or spreadsheets of data.  

The point of storytelling is to communicate. It is how we take simple or complex thoughts and share them with other people. It is how we lead people to see our vision. It is how we plant a flag, define a 'north star' or rally a nation to defend itself against impossible odds.  

Storytelling is a core competency for consultants. If you can't narrate, you can't explain your code, your architecture, your business strategy. It is central to what we do as consultants.   

I wanted to talk more about this with my smart friends. I also happen to think there is a great example of the "power of narrative" playing out in front of our eyes on the world stage.   

In this episode: 

  • Why do we care about stories?  
  • What makes stories important to consultants? 
  • What makes a good story or narrative? 
  • Why do some of us struggle to relate and narrate? 
  • How can one improve at storytelling?

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Mar 07, 202239:37
Episode 46: The One About Business Architecture

Episode 46: The One About Business Architecture

There is often a tendency for companies to prioritize action and delivery over planning and analysis. More "Deliver the widgets!" and less "What does our company actually do?"  

This can be seen in places where decision making is driven by technology and timelines instead of desired business outcomes, where the "How" and "When" is obsessed over while the "Why" is practically forgotten.  

But friends! It doesn't have to be this way!  

In the world of effective Business Architecture, understanding the "Why" actually enables and accelerates the "How" and the "When". In other words, if people on Project XYZ actually see and understand what the company does, why it does it, what business problem is being solved by their project and how the thing they're delivering helps move the entire enterprise toward its goals... well... things go faster, smoother, cheaper and end up better for everyone.  

My 100,000-foot view sounds easy. To dig into the right level of detail and understand Business Architecture, how it works and what it can really do, I turned to my smart friends Whynde Kuehn, Oliver Cronk and Phil Yanov.   

(By the way, Whynde is a globally recognized expert, consultant and educator in this space. A quick peek at her LinkedIn profile will give you the scoop...)  

In this Episode: 

  • What the heck IS Business Architecture anyway?
  • How is it practiced? What are the methods and frameworks? 
  • What benefits does it provide? Who in the company should care?
  • What are good examples of Business Architecture practice? What are bad ones?
  • How does Business Architecture relate to Enterprise Architecture?
  • How can you, yes YOU, get started in Business Architecture either as an employee in a company or as a consultant?

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Feb 22, 202247:29
Episode 45: The 2021 Christmas Special
Dec 31, 202101:11:08
Episode 44: The One About Ethics in Consulting

Episode 44: The One About Ethics in Consulting

In our connected world of technology, the ways in which we engage with businesses and clients can have a big impact. And as we've seen with the ways in which our public and private data is used by companies like Meta, not all impacts are positive. Some are downright manipulative.

How does a company or an employee or a consultant working with a client know how to operate with transparency and integrity? We know that certain industries have regulations that define what is acceptable and compel compliance (law, medicine, accounting). There are also voluntary standards and practices established by working groups and business consortiums that can serve as guides to ethical behavior.

However, many industries and especially many different forms of consulting lack clearly articulated and codified ethical rules. Is it right or wrong to give or receive bribes (or dinners, or gifts) as part of doing business? Where are the guardrails in fudging timesheets? Is it okay to use user-data, given voluntarily or not, to target ads or shape opinion or manipulate thought? Even if these things are done for 'good' purposes or without ill intent?

Beyond employees or corporate entities, there is an opportunity for those of us who advise and solve problems for our clients to be better Philosopher-Consultants and operate with virtue and integrity.

But ethics can be complex issues, often culturally specific and rarely black or white. Tough scene for consultants to navigate. So I asked my friends Phil Yanov, Oliver Cronk, and Whynde Kuehn to chat with me about it.

In this episode:

  • What does it mean for a company or a person to act with virtue?
  • What does it mean to be ethical?
  • When are ethics clear? When are they ambiguous?
  • What are the cultural contexts at play here?
  • How does a person in a company navigate ethics?
  • How does a consultant work ethically and advise clients ethically?
  • How does an employee or consultant know that they're acting ethically?

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Dec 06, 202138:33
Episode 43: The One About Sustainability

Episode 43: The One About Sustainability

Consultants often help clients think about complex problems with few easy answers. There are almost always trade-offs to be made, regulations to follow, expenses to incur all while trying to run a business and make a profit.  

One of the most complex issues involving tough decisions is around how best to utilize business (or national) resources in a manner that ensures the business (or nation) can continue to grow and thrive in a way that doesn't negatively impact everyone else.  

Are you an oil company looking at how you'll be in business in 40 years if no one is buying gasoline or oil-based plastics? What alternative product lines should you be looking at?   

Are you a search-engine giant that uses more electricity than some countries to power your data centers? How do you supply that business need without causing brownouts? Solar? Wind? Fusion?   

Are you a Northeastern Pennsylvania-based mid-size paper company that uses a lot of trees? Perhaps finding a way to make your product from fast-growing varieties like bamboo instead of old-growth oak is a good way to ensure your business can continue to make product into the future.  

Decisions... some forced by the State, some forced by shareholders, others just good business planning, others perhaps totally altruistic. Sounds like an opportunity for a consultant looking to make a difference.  

I gathered my friends to discuss Sustainability and opportunities in that space. Along with Oliver Cronk, Whynde Kuehn and Phil Yanov, I was joined by Jonathan Gibbard who is a Business Unit Director for Sustainable Infrastructure & Operations at Ricardo Energy & Environment in the UK.  

In this Episode:

  • What do we really mean by Sustainability? 
  • What is driving companies to invest in Sustainable practices? 
  • What is the state of the Sustainable Consulting industry? 
  • Where are there career opportunities in this space for new or experienced consultants? 
  • What does a consulting engagement look like that deals with Sustainability? 
  • Who has the worst middle-name combo, Chris or Oliver?

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Nov 30, 202141:08
Episode 42: The One About The Future of Consulting
Nov 17, 202135:19
Episode 41: The One About Job Cycles

Episode 41: The One About Job Cycles

Is it The Great Rebalance? The Great Reshuffle? The Great Resignation? The Great Discontent? To read about it, companies are really struggling to find workers these days. Clearly there aren't enough people that want to work.  

We think that's just a load of codswallop.  There was a recent LinkedIn News story about the consulting boom/bust job cycle that caught my eye. The story said that 2 in 3 consulting firms are short-staffed and 1 in 5 have to turn down work as a result. More than half said that recruiting and retention have become much harder this year.   

I wondered, is this because the firms didn't forecast demand correctly? Were they spooked by COVID and didn't plan recruiting properly? We know labor force participation in the US is declining... are consultants just dropping out of the workforce? Are people doing their own entrepreneurial thing?  

I wanted the input of my smart friends Phil Yanov, Whynde Kuehn and Oliver Cronk.   

In this episode: 

  • Is there really a shortage of consultants? Why might there be one? 
  • What is going on in the overall labor market that might add context? 
  • Is there a labor shortage or just a labor realignment or are the workers just hiding in plain sight?
  • How do consultants navigate this boom/bust cycle of demand for their skills? 
  • What should existing or aspiring consultants be considering as they look at this landscape? 
  • What changes should consulting firms be making to attract and retain talent?  

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Oct 14, 202150:60
Episode 40: The One About Entrepreneurship

Episode 40: The One About Entrepreneurship

The model entrepreneur gets up one morning with a great idea, quits their job and boldly strikes out on their own... single-handedly building a great company from nothing, attracting flocks of clients, finding happiness and peace of mind and easily striking it rich. Modern-day gold rush.

Except that's false. Like... totally false. All of it.   

So many misconceptions of what entrepreneurship is about, especially among consultants who think that's a great exit strategy someday.  I called up my long-time friend Adam Anderson for a chat. 

Adam is the kind of cat who has started and run several of his own companies, gone from Founder to CEO a few times and helps others do the same, been entrepreneurship scholar-in-residence at two major Universities, sits on multiple startup boards, hangs out with Richard Branson and is currently trying to figure out how to make moonshine in space... among other things.   

I gotta tell you, it was a fantastic conversation. I mean, this is just pure gold.  

In this episode: 

  • What are the mistakes most consultants make when they decide to go the entrepreneur route? 
  • What's the reality of being the one-person show, of doing it all yourself? 
  • Is there an entrepreneur archetype? 
  • What is the role of innovation in entrepreneurship? 
  • What are the tools you need to have or acquire as you make the jump from full time job to going solo? 
  • Adam shares his journey from Employee to Consultant to Founder to CEO to CEO who helps CEO's navigate the same

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Aug 23, 202101:01:10
Episode 39: The One About Young Consultants

Episode 39: The One About Young Consultants

Consulting may be an old profession (the second oldest?) but no one can argue that it hasn't undergone tremendous change over the past 20 years.

It makes sense, after all. Consulting reflects the business technology challenges and opportunities that clients are experiencing. And there's been incredible business technology change in the recent decades.

Which begs the question, what is it like being a young consultant of Millennial or Gen Z upbringing?

For insight I turned to my smart friends and a smart, young consultant, Ian Liang, with whom I've worked in the past. Ian has been a consultant for a Big 4 firm, worked in market strategy at Uber and is currently in Strategy and Analytics at a media firm in Los Angeles. He may also be scarred for life having worked on my teams in the past.

In this episode:

  • What prompts a young person, fresh from college, to enter the consulting field?
  • Do young people generally know what they're getting into with consulting?
  • Is consulting experience as valued by the young as it once was?
  • What do the fresh entrants into this field NOT know that may surprise them?
  • What are the different expectations of the youth entering consulting today?
  • Why do young people LEAVE consulting? Is the 10-15 year path to Partner career still relevant to the youth of today?
  • Is there a consultant DNA? Do experiences vary by gender?
  • And importantly for our guest Ian, would he do it again knowing what he knows now?

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Jul 20, 202149:05
Episode 38: The One About Mentorship
Jun 08, 202139:25
Episode 37: The One About Return to Office
May 03, 202143:01
Episode 36: The 2020 Christmas Special!
Dec 29, 202001:39:55
Episode 35: The One About Recruiting

Episode 35: The One About Recruiting

Dec 24, 202049:09
Episode 34: The One About Philosophy
Dec 15, 202046:54
Episode 33: The One About Women in Consulting
Dec 08, 202001:01:36
Episode 32: The One About Covid Ranting
Nov 24, 202042:28
Episode 31: The One About Value Opportunity
Oct 27, 202032:56
Episode 30: The One About Endpoint Cybersecurity

Episode 30: The One About Endpoint Cybersecurity

Check your endpoint. It's probably not as safe from cyberthreats as you think. And Covid made it worse...

The cybersecurity landscape has been dicey for years. In just the past week there have been massive outages in the networks of Tesla, Microsoft, Apple and AT&T. Think about that. Those companies basically impact every aspect of life. And while they've done a lot to protect their services over the years, the pandemic has thrown a spanner in the works.

If huge global companies with billions of dollars and super smart people are vulnerable, how safe are those corporate assets on the company laptop you're using for Zoom calls from home (Pajamas, noisy dogs, screaming e-learning kids and bad lighting not withstanding)?

I wanted to know more about this. So I asked my good friend Oliver Cronk to come on the podcast and talk about it. Oliver isn't just smart. He's also British. So he SOUNDS smarter as well. Beyond that, he's the Chief Architect at Tanium. Perhaps you've heard of them? They protect endpoint assets of small mom & pop shops like the US Air Force. So, yeah. These folks know something about endpoint security.

In our conversation:

  • How has our new way of working impacted traditional security?
  • Is the 'enterprise fortress' still relevant to security?
  • How should CISO's, Risk Officers and other stakeholders adapt?
  • How are Consultants able to take advantage of these trends?
  • How can we better serve our clients in this environment?
  • Is Phil really just an aged future version of Chris?

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Oct 02, 202051:17
Episode 29: The One About Changes to Our Behaviors
Jul 02, 202029:27
Episode 28: The One About Enterprise Architecture
Jun 02, 202052:28
Episode 27: The One About Video Conferencing
Apr 28, 202046:16
Episode 26: The One About Changes to Our Clients

Episode 26: The One About Changes to Our Clients

Yes the global pandemic has altered almost everything about how we work. But it has also dramatically impacted our clients and their businesses.  

It can be easy to first consider how the Coronavirus is impacting us personally. Our clients are also thinking of how this crisis is hitting their bottom line. What is the role that we as advisers can play when it comes to helping our clients through this difficult time?   

I took the question to my group of consultant friends. We talked at length about how consultants should be working with their clients and what short and long term opportunities might exist beyond just cutting costs in a panic.  

In this second episode of a three-part Coronavirus series: 

  • What impacts are we seeing and hearing about with our clients?
  • How should we be advising our clients at this time? 
  • What sort of things should our clients be thinking about?  
  • How do we position our clients not just to survive this crisis, but to thrive and come out stronger than before?   

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Apr 14, 202046:39
Episode 25: The One About Changes to the Way We Work

Episode 25: The One About Changes to the Way We Work

The Coronavirus has had dramatic impact on our world. Everything from how we eat to how we learn has changed. The way we work has also changed.  

Even though Consultants may be more accustomed to remote work and video conferences than average people, the impact on consulting, advisory and delivery has also been dramatic and rapid. This current new reality we are in requires us to work in new ways, to engage our clients differently, to improve how we communicate.   

I asked some smart folks I know to come online with me and discuss how consulting work is being impacted, what practitioners out there should be thinking about and what behaviors they should be adopting as we navigate the crisis.   

In this episode:

  • What is the impact to the consulting way of work? 
  • How can consultants see this as an opportunity to improve their communication style? 
  • What lasting impacts to client engagement are we likely to see? 
  • What should technology or advisory consultants be doing differently?  

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Mar 28, 202047:29
Episode 24: The 2019 Christmas Special!

Episode 24: The 2019 Christmas Special!

The year has come and gone. Lot's of interesting stuff happened this year in the world of technology and business. Transformations occurred. Lessons were learned. We spent an hour talking about none of those things.

I give you the second Christmas Special episode of Consultants Saying Things.

Warning: Drinking was involved.

This is our attempt at an annual retrospective. What did WE learn that might be applicable to YOUR consulting career.  Think of it as a riff on a Christmas Carol. Only you don't have to visit the ghost of Christmas yet to come.

In this final episode of 2019, our second season:

  • What things did we learn that might practically be used by others?
  • What ways of working did we encounter that could be reused?
  • What lessons can practitioners learn from our mistakes?
  • What are we looking forward to in 2020?
  • When does Chris really go to sleep? And if no one sees it, does it happen?

Seriously though. Thanks to the viewers who keep showing up to listen to us opine. 24 episodes so far. It's pretty cool that anyone cares.  We'll see you in 2020.

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Dec 24, 201954:36
Episode 23: The One About Domain Knowledge

Episode 23: The One About Domain Knowledge

How often have you seen consulting job descriptions that contain things like "10 years of health claims processing experience required" ? Ever thought that it sounded like a bunch of crap?

Well I sure do. So I got my smart friends on the line and asked them, is domain or industry specific knowledge REALLY necessary in the consulting industry? Or is it possible that any half-decent consultant could figure out what they needed to know?

Surprise. We didn't all agree.

In this episode:

  • How necessary is domain or industry specific knowledge?
  • What're some examples of where that knowledge might matter?
  • What do you call someone who's been an "expert" in something for decades?
  • How should a consultant position themselves in light of client asks for such knowledge?
  • What makes Shashi a "unicorn" ?

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Dec 24, 201941:46
Episode 22: The One About Consulting 4.0

Episode 22: The One About Consulting 4.0

You're a consultant. You've been doing your thing. Suddenly Big 4 Firms and various magazines and LinkedIn rivals tell you you've been doing it ALL WRONG!

Consulting 1.0? No no no. You should be doing Consulting 4.0!!

You know your stuff. No one has ever told you that what you were doing was so out of date it needed a version number attached to it.  It's like cell phone speed hype (that never lives up to the promise, let's be honest). Are you still on 1xRTT? Holy crap, you should be on 20G! How could you be so backward!

Ok. Maybe it isn't quite that bad. But seriously, the big firms are talking Consulting 4.0 like it is something so new and so different that if you don't do it you are simply Neanderthal.

I call bullshit. And so did at least one of my friends. But there are always so many sides to these things that it warrants discussion. So I asked the panel, is Consulting 4.0 real and if so, what the hell is it?

In this episode:

  • Is this just another buzzword to sell stuff?
  • What are the consulting 'versions' ? What do they mean?
  • What was consulting in the past versus what is it now?
  • How does the average cat navigate this (seeming) marketing nonsense?
  • Can a practitioner leverage the confusion over these BS terms to get ahead?
  • What does Phil REALLY think about Consulting 4.0?

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Dec 24, 201933:12